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	<title>Comments on: Chaos and Colorspace</title>
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		<title>By: e.young &#187; Fix your colour profile NOW!</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-45682</link>
		<dc:creator>e.young &#187; Fix your colour profile NOW!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be darker when viewed with another profile. So, pictures that are vivid under gamma 1.8 will have washed-out colours in prints and browsers. (Actually, Safari displays images correctly because it can process embedded colour profiles; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be darker when viewed with another profile. So, pictures that are vivid under gamma 1.8 will have washed-out colours in prints and browsers. (Actually, Safari displays images correctly because it can process embedded colour profiles; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: passage du raw au jpeg et qualit? d'image - EOS-Numerique</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-28856</link>
		<dc:creator>passage du raw au jpeg et qualit? d'image - EOS-Numerique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] le seul navigateur qui g?re les profils icc, ce qui est pr?vu pour firefox 3. Plus d&#039;infos ici : Still Life With... (Food Styling and Photography) ? Chaos and Colorspace c&#039;est en anglais mais voici une image qui montre la diff?rence Téléchargement de photo Flickr?*: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] le seul navigateur qui g?re les profils icc, ce qui est pr?vu pour firefox 3. Plus d&#8217;infos ici : Still Life With&#8230; (Food Styling and Photography) ? Chaos and Colorspace c&#8217;est en anglais mais voici une image qui montre la diff?rence Téléchargement de photo Flickr?*: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Color management support added to Firefox 3 : Mozilla Links</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-26374</link>
		<dc:creator>Color management support added to Firefox 3 : Mozilla Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a must for amateur and professional photographers, clothing and fabric related e-stores, paint, food, and mostly everywhere a true representation of color is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a must for amateur and professional photographers, clothing and fabric related e-stores, paint, food, and mostly everywhere a true representation of color is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-25100</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog is fantastic. I am completely in love with your food photography. You have a very sensual eye for the food. I am even more impressed that this is a second career for you!

I have been reading through many of your posts and tried searching, but I can&#039;t find an answer to my problem: I simply cannot get the color of artichokes to turn out right in my photographs. They either look dull and grey (I think because they have a slight film on the leaves that reflects light??) or the flash catches them and they are neon green. I have tried indoor light, natural sunlight, every sort of light we have at home etc. No dice.

Have you had this problem? Any suggestions? Is it something particular about artichokes or just my relatively simplistic lighting situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is fantastic. I am completely in love with your food photography. You have a very sensual eye for the food. I am even more impressed that this is a second career for you!</p>
<p>I have been reading through many of your posts and tried searching, but I can&#8217;t find an answer to my problem: I simply cannot get the color of artichokes to turn out right in my photographs. They either look dull and grey (I think because they have a slight film on the leaves that reflects light??) or the flash catches them and they are neon green. I have tried indoor light, natural sunlight, every sort of light we have at home etc. No dice.</p>
<p>Have you had this problem? Any suggestions? Is it something particular about artichokes or just my relatively simplistic lighting situation?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-5779</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi and thanks for the very interesting piece. For me too, it was an eye-opener. I did my editing in Adobe RGB, and the Firefox version was completely washed out. Now I know why.

All the best, Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi and thanks for the very interesting piece. For me too, it was an eye-opener. I did my editing in Adobe RGB, and the Firefox version was completely washed out. Now I know why.</p>
<p>All the best, Erik</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - I just started a thread on the suggestion forum for Flock (a form of Firefox). Feel free to go and &quot;second&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flock.com/forums/suggestions/color-profile-support&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my suggestion.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; I just started a thread on the suggestion forum for Flock (a form of Firefox). Feel free to go and &#8220;second&#8221; <a href="http://www.flock.com/forums/suggestions/color-profile-support" rel="nofollow">my suggestion.</a></p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Danielle,

Thanks! sRGB will give you better results than Adobe RGB... but you are right, there is still a distinct difference. You can change the colorspace to Generic RGB in Photoshop (select Convert to Profile in the Edit menu), but you will lose color depth when do so your photos still won&#039;t have the same richness that you see in Safari. I think what really needs to happen is that we all tell firefox to get their act together and start supporting color profiles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danielle,</p>
<p>Thanks! sRGB will give you better results than Adobe RGB&#8230; but you are right, there is still a distinct difference. You can change the colorspace to Generic RGB in Photoshop (select Convert to Profile in the Edit menu), but you will lose color depth when do so your photos still won&#8217;t have the same richness that you see in Safari. I think what really needs to happen is that we all tell firefox to get their act together and start supporting color profiles!</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-776</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked, and my photos do look much better in Safari than they do in Firefox - more vibrant, richer, and just plain ol&#039; better. But when I checked in Photoshop, it turned out that I&#039;m using sRGP already - apparently my Canon S400 -&gt; iPhoto -&gt; Photoshop automatically does that. So, I really don&#039;t know what to do about it. Do you know any other tips on how to deal with this?

(By the by, I really love your blogs. The longer I keep at food blogging, the more I get into the photography as well as the food. It&#039;s been really fun and fascinating, the way my interests have expanded through food blogging.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked, and my photos do look much better in Safari than they do in Firefox &#8211; more vibrant, richer, and just plain ol&#8217; better. But when I checked in Photoshop, it turned out that I&#8217;m using sRGP already &#8211; apparently my Canon S400 -&gt; iPhoto -&gt; Photoshop automatically does that. So, I really don&#8217;t know what to do about it. Do you know any other tips on how to deal with this?</p>
<p>(By the by, I really love your blogs. The longer I keep at food blogging, the more I get into the photography as well as the food. It&#8217;s been really fun and fascinating, the way my interests have expanded through food blogging.)</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucy - Thanks!

jack - :-) 

Larry - Thanks. Yes, that&#039;s a great analogy. 

Oliver - Thanks for the tip. You are right that there is an entire color calibration step to ensuring that you get accurate color from start to finish. Maybe at some point I&#039;ll have a whole post on that... but my guess is that it will take many, many posts to get it right. Color calibration is so incredibly tricky... I have lots of friends who spend weeks trying to get their equipment setup to get an exactly perfect print. I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t have that kind of patience!  At this point, I just want to make sure that what I see &amp; think that I&#039;m publishing actually gets viewed as I intended. I know that&#039;s even more than I can hope for at this point, but a girl can dream! &lt;g&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucy &#8211; Thanks!</p>
<p>jack &#8211; <img src='http://stilllifewith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Larry &#8211; Thanks. Yes, that&#8217;s a great analogy. </p>
<p>Oliver &#8211; Thanks for the tip. You are right that there is an entire color calibration step to ensuring that you get accurate color from start to finish. Maybe at some point I&#8217;ll have a whole post on that&#8230; but my guess is that it will take many, many posts to get it right. Color calibration is so incredibly tricky&#8230; I have lots of friends who spend weeks trying to get their equipment setup to get an exactly perfect print. I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t have that kind of patience!  At this point, I just want to make sure that what I see &#038; think that I&#8217;m publishing actually gets viewed as I intended. I know that&#8217;s even more than I can hope for at this point, but a girl can dream! <g></g></p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://stilllifewith.com/2006/05/11/chaos-and-colorspace/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi L, Great post! One thing you missed however is the DSLR/RAW converter color calibration. Since no two cameras produce the same color output data, now by using a MacBeth Colorchecker chart you&#039;d be able to make sure that whatever you shoot will have accurate color information to start with. Now that still doesn&#039;t guarantee that this color information is represented right on your or someone else computer (you already mentioned color calibration for all other devices).

For extensive photoshopâ€™ing &amp; printing it would certainly make sense to utilize a broader color space, but I see little use for the anyway limited presentation capabilities of a web browser (most readers use unmanaged browsers). So until this will change and with the many quirks and rendering problems Safari has re: CSS compatibility, I can&#039;t afford to take it into consideration. 

All the best,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi L, Great post! One thing you missed however is the DSLR/RAW converter color calibration. Since no two cameras produce the same color output data, now by using a MacBeth Colorchecker chart you&#8217;d be able to make sure that whatever you shoot will have accurate color information to start with. Now that still doesn&#8217;t guarantee that this color information is represented right on your or someone else computer (you already mentioned color calibration for all other devices).</p>
<p>For extensive photoshopâ€™ing &amp; printing it would certainly make sense to utilize a broader color space, but I see little use for the anyway limited presentation capabilities of a web browser (most readers use unmanaged browsers). So until this will change and with the many quirks and rendering problems Safari has re: CSS compatibility, I can&#8217;t afford to take it into consideration. </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
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